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This question was asked recently but I saw no answer. Is it that
homosexuals have no answer?:
"What population sub-group could be grimmer than that which, by
excluding children as its first principle, has condemned its
individual members to suicide in one generation and of which,
furthermore, fully half of the number are infected with a deadly,
incurable, painful, drawn-out and contagious disease?"
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Men have no right to put the well-being of the present generation
wholly out of the question. Perhaps the only moral trust with any
certainty in our hands is the care of our own time. -Edmund Burke (1729
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:12 am Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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On Jul 13, 3:55 pm, LeRoy Blue <leroyb...@pillon.net> wrote:
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This question was asked recently but I saw no answer. Is it that
homosexuals have no answer?:
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Please do not feed the trolls. |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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"LeRoy Blue" <leroyblue@pillon.net> wrote in message
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This question was asked recently but I saw no answer. Is it that
homosexuals have no answer?:
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hillbillies gomer, everyone knows that,
look what these losing,failing, ignorant hillbilly fuckups
have done for 7 1/2 years |
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Masculist
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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On Jul 13, 3:55 pm, LeRoy Blue <leroyb...@pillon.net> wrote:
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This question was asked recently but I saw no answer. Is it that
homosexuals have no answer?:
"What population sub-group could be grimmer than that which, by
excluding children as its first principle, has condemned its
individual members to suicide in one generation and of which,
furthermore, fully half of the number are infected with a deadly,
incurable, painful, drawn-out and contagious disease?"
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Excellent question LeRoy. I'm not homosexual but I will try to
civilly and respectfully answer this question from a homo's
perspective, something the homo's here and elsewhere seem unable to
do. Why that is is a discussion for another time.
The homo's would say that they want to have children eventhough they
withdrew from the game by being homo's. Like feminists, their allies,
they want everything without earning it.
My hetero response is they can't have it. Pure and simple and us
masculists want them back in the closet so they can spend their
exhorbitant weath in peace that they obtained by cutting corners at
the expense of us hetero's and our children!
Smitty
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Al. E. Crocodile
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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"juanjo" <jonpetry@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 13, 3:55 pm, LeRoy Blue <leroyb...@pillon.net> wrote:
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This question was asked recently but I saw no answer. Is it that
homosexuals have no answer?:
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Please do not feed the trolls.
bitch slap this hillbilly troll,
this is hertz donut under another of his dozen or so identitities |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:51 pm Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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Masculist wrote:
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On Jul 13, 3:55 pm, LeRoy Blue <leroyb...@pillon.net> wrote:
This question was asked recently but I saw no answer. Is it that
homosexuals have no answer?:
"What population sub-group could be grimmer than that which, by
excluding children as its first principle, has condemned its
individual members to suicide in one generation and of which,
furthermore, fully half of the number are infected with a deadly,
incurable, painful, drawn-out and contagious disease?"
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The diseases that any individual has is nothing to do with his race or
sexual orientation. It may relate to how others treat them in society.
In other words, if you are a minority, others may not wish to employ you
so you are mostly poor if you can't find a good job regardless of the
race
or colour being discriminated against.
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Excellent question LeRoy. I'm not homosexual but I will try to
civilly and respectfully answer this question from a homo's
perspective, something the homo's here and elsewhere seem unable to
do. Why that is is a discussion for another time.
The homo's would say that they want to have children eventhough they
withdrew from the game by being homo's.
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Not so at all. Some homos want to have children, true, in the same way
some
heterosexuals don't want to have children. Homosexuals wish to have the
same
civil rights as heterosexual do and gradually globally that is happening
as it has
happened here in Canada. Remember it took women 1,932 years to get the
vote and have
laws protecting them. It took blacks 1,975 approximately years to
really have civil rights
in some of the bigger countries.
Like feminists, their allies,
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they want everything without earning it.
You are right that people who don't treat women very well, and don't |
liek feminists, usually hate homosexuals.
Women are aware of that and can test how the will be treated after they
say yes to sex or yes to marriage by asking similar type questions.
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My hetero response is they can't have it.
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Your male hetero response should be that while the churches of the world
fought against homosexual marriages globally, the big corporations and
governments removed interest from bank acccounts and outsourced jobs
which mostly affected heterosexual males. So the church and society in
general did insufficient or very little to assist the usual breadwinner
to prepare him for a changing world and a global economy in which to
raise his family. Women, minorities and homosexuals have never had a
better life. Minorities got civil rights and laws against society in
general saying bad things about them or hateful things about them.
Homosexuals got marriage and women got the right to divorce men whom
didn't live up to their expectations or the marriage contact in
general. In most countries women got the right to half the possession
of the marriage for many reasons but certainly one significant one would
be her required job of washer her man's underwear with skidmarks on
them. That alone would be worth a few assets. Just ask any woman.
Pure and simple and us
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masculists want them back in the closet so they can spend their
exhorbitant weath in peace that they obtained by cutting corners at
the expense of us hetero's and our children!
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Homosexuals are basically in the closet, or to put it another way, the
lead a very quiet good life in the company of some heterosexuals and in
the absence of other homosexuals who have way, way, too many problems of
their own. Oh, and in case you have your hopes set too, high, woman
aren't going back in the kitchen except on their terms.
Every aspect of the society and the human race every moment of their
life is geared to heterosexual society.
Yet, they complain all the time as you are doing how unfortunate life
is. Technically, most heterosexuals are so busy they have not a minute
to spare to even think about homoseuxals, their wife and loving kids
make sure of that.
If you tbink of how much it costs to keep a guy happy, then add to that
the cost of hwo many it costs to keep his wife happy and the amount of
money it costs to keep his kids happy, it isn't a pretty picture for any
member of a straight society - and nothing to do with the homosexuals on
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:58 am Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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Masculist <MASCULIST@gmail.com> writes:
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On Jul 13, 3:55 pm, LeRoy Blue <leroyb...@pillon.net> wrote:
This question was asked recently but I saw no answer. Is it that
homosexuals have no answer?:
"What population sub-group could be grimmer than that which, by
excluding children as its first principle, has condemned its
individual members to suicide in one generation and of which,
furthermore, fully half of the number are infected with a deadly,
incurable, painful, drawn-out and contagious disease?"
Excellent question LeRoy. I'm not homosexual but I will try to
civilly and respectfully answer this question from a homo's
perspective, something the homo's here and elsewhere seem unable to
do.
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LeRoy Blue's "question", which is a loaded one, was answered years ago
and the reason the "homo's" [sic] are not answering it because they've
gotten bored with that troll continually reposting the same thing.
His "fully half" thing is a lie - not a mistake because it was explained
to him over and over. Less than 1/2 the HIV cases in the U.S. are due to
same-gender sexual activity, but that number of HIV cases is a
smaller fraction of the total gay population.
Through 2006, there were 465,965 cases due to male/male sexual contact
and 68,516 cases due to male/male sexual contac and injection drug use
(so which transmitted the virus is not clear). source:
<http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/basic.htm>
Roughly 4 percent of the population is gay, and the U.S. population is
about 300,000,000. Figuring on that being half male, we have roughly
6,000,000 gay males (not counting bisexuals). So, even if you bias
the numbers in LeRoy Blue's favor, you still end up with less than
10 percent of gay men being infected, which is significantly below
that troll's "fully half" claim. |
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Dionisio
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:04 am Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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LeRoy Blue wrote:
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This question was asked recently but I saw no answer. Is it that
homosexuals have no answer?:
"What population sub-group could be grimmer than that which, by
excluding children as its first principle, has condemned its individual
members to suicide in one generation and of which, furthermore, fully
half of the number are infected with a deadly, incurable, painful,
drawn-out and contagious disease?"
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Heterosexuals.
They know they will die, it's all they can do. But rather than accept their fate, they
spread the pain around; Continuing death and misery by breeding. They see something
honorable in consigning their progeny to death, disease, accidents, robbery, muggings,
cancer, STDs, friendly fire, heart attacks, etc... And that's forgetting Hell, which only
the majority of their offspring will go to; And they know it. Witness the constant
preaching...
But when they birth folks who aren't interested in spreading the misery, well, they call
them sinners-most-foul.
(There. Was that what you were looking for?)
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
It is a scientific fact that the speed of time increases in direct proportion to the force
of gravity. It is also a scientific fact that the more mass an object has, the more
gravity it generates. I take this to mean that fat people should pay more for life
insurance since they'll age faster.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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On Jul 15, 6:04 pm, Dionisio <moc.rr.thighi...@5ellimd.com> wrote:
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LeRoy Blue wrote:
This question was asked recently but I saw no answer. Is it that
homosexuals have no answer?:
"What population sub-group could be grimmer than that which, by
excluding children as its first principle, has condemned its individual
members to suicide in one generation and of which, furthermore, fully
half of the number are infected with a deadly, incurable, painful,
drawn-out and contagious disease?"
Heterosexuals.
They know they will die, it's all they can do. But rather than accept their fate, they
spread the pain around; Continuing death and misery by breeding. They see something
honorable in consigning their progeny to death, disease, accidents, robbery, muggings,
cancer, STDs, friendly fire, heart attacks, etc... And that's forgetting Hell, which only
the majority of their offspring will go to; And they know it. Witness the constant
preaching...
But when they birth folks who aren't interested in spreading the misery, well, they call
them sinners-most-foul.
(There. Was that what you were looking for?)
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And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
It is a scientific fact that the speed of time increases in direct proportion to the force
of gravity. It is also a scientific fact that the more mass an object has, the more
gravity it generates. I take this to mean that fat people should pay more for life
insurance since they'll age faster.
(Brought to you by SigChanger.http://www.phranc.nl)
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Congrats on the "civil and respectful" discourse. I'd argue all the
points but I just don't have the energy. My view of all this is
political and I could give a rat's ass about Homo's and their
problems, which compared to other men, women and children are silly,
self indulgent and destructive to the rest of us both politically and
culturally.
My advice to homosexuals is to repent by stopping their constant
tugging on mommy's skirt and join us real men in building a fairer and
more just society.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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"Masculist" <MASCULIST@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Congrats on the "civil and respectful" discourse. I'd argue all the
points but I just don't have the energy. My view of all this is
political and I could give a rat's ass about Homo's and their
problems, which compared to other men, women and children are silly,
self indulgent and destructive to the rest of us both politically and
culturally.
My advice to homosexuals is to repent by stopping their constant
tugging on mommy's skirt and join us real men in building a fairer and
more just society.
Tom
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It is very well to say that unless you happen to be effected by some of the
injustices that occur.
I had a close gay friend, he was murdered, the person who killed him was a
drunken alcoholic who sneaked up behind him and killed him with an iron bar.
He then molested the body.
Now comes the crunch, despite have numerous convictions for various types of
serious assaults, the killer was given a $500.00 good behaviour bond. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:21 am Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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Masculist wrote:
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Congrats on the "civil and respectful" discourse. I'd argue all the
points but I just don't have the energy. My view of all this is
political and I could give a rat's ass about Homo's and their
problems, which compared to other men, women and children are silly,
self indulgent and destructive to the rest of us both politically and
culturally.
My advice to homosexuals is to repent by stopping their constant
tugging on mommy's skirt and join us real men in building a fairer and
more just society.
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So... The "man" runs away.
(Or is that "behind Mommy's skirt"?)
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And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
TV is not an entertainment medium. It is a commercial medium. The programs are not the
product. The viewers are the product; They are sold to advertisers. Ratings are merely an
indication of how many viewers a station has to sell.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:42 am Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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On Jul 16, 11:46 am, Masculist <MASCUL...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Congrats on the "civil and respectful" discourse. I'd argue all the
points but I just don't have the energy. My view of all this is
political and I could give a rat's ass about Homo's and their
problems, which compared to other men, women and children are silly,
self indulgent and destructive to the rest of us both politically and
culturally.
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Yeah, basically I agree. I don't have a problem with any
homosexuals personally, but politically they should just
shut up. And by the way plurals don't use apostrophes, write
"homos" not "homo's".
Not to mention that the queers are essentially responsible
for AIDS - when are they going to pay to solve it?
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:42 am Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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On Jul 16, 12:14 pm, "RamRod Sword of Baal" <ram...@truthonly.com>
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It is very well to say that unless you happen to be effected by some of the
injustices that occur.
I had a close gay friend, he was murdered, the person who killed him was a
drunken alcoholic who sneaked up behind him and killed him with an iron bar.
He then molested the body.
Now comes the crunch, despite have numerous convictions for various types of
serious assaults, the killer was given a $500.00 good behaviour bond.
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Yeah, right.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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On Jul 17, 3:42 am, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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On Jul 16, 11:46 am, Masculist <MASCUL...@gmail.com> wrote:
Congrats on the "civil and respectful" discourse. I'd argue all the
points but I just don't have the energy. My view of all this is
political and I could give a rat's ass about Homo's and their
problems, which compared to other men, women and children are silly,
self indulgent and destructive to the rest of us both politically and
culturally.
Yeah, basically I agree. I don't have a problem with any
homosexuals personally, but politically they should just
shut up.
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My exact same sentiments as well as your reply to Ramrod's attempt to
ramrod hysteria.
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And by the way plurals don't use apostrophes, write
"homos" not "homo's".
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Thanks. It's been awhile since I had a grammer lesson.
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Not to mention that the queers are essentially responsible
for AIDS -
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Queers are not only responsible for AIDS, their queer advocacy of
using privacy rights to keep public health officials from stemming the
epidemic has caused millions of non gays and kids to die of AIDS.
What shitheads they are...that is the "gay activists". Other gays are
as clueless and powerless as the rest of us.
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when are they going to pay to solve it?
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Mommy will never make them pay. The gays cover for Mommy's sins.
Smitty
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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On Jul 13, 3:55 pm, LeRoy Blue <leroyb...@pillon.net> wrote:
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This question was asked recently but I saw no answer. Is it that
homosexuals have no answer?:
"What population sub-group could be grimmer than that which, by
excluding children as its first principle, has condemned its
individual members to suicide in one generation and of which,
furthermore, fully half of the number are infected with a deadly,
incurable, painful, drawn-out and contagious disease?"
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As has been pointed out by some others, this rather pathetic question
is pre-loaded towards the conclusion the author would like to have in
response. And of course the poster has had numerous responses in the
past but simply continues to post the same tired nonsense over and
again. Such is the nature of a troll.
Gay men and women do not necessarily exclude children from their
lives. Nor do heterosexual men and women necessarily include children
in their lives. The use of the term "suicidal" to refer to those who
decide to remain childless is absurd. Not all people have the same
motivation to have progeny to succeed them. That does not make them
suicidal or self destructive. Some adopt while others support the
children of relatives. Many lesbians do in fact have children the old
fashioned way, albeit not necessarily keeping the father around after
the child is conceived. Some gay men have children using a surrogate
mother. Others, gay and straight, simply decide not to have children
in their lives period. They lead otherwise fulfilling lives, carrying
on in their careers and enjoying life.
As to the contention that fully half will die of disease, that is
simply not supported by the evidence. Some will, particularly older
ones who became infected with HIV prior to the discovery of the cause
of that disease. HIV and AIDS is not a disease which discriminates.
It has been around for quite some time although it did not break out
into the Western World until the 1970's. and was not recognized until
the 80's. When one looks at infection rates worldwide, it is sadly
true fact that millions of heterosexuals have contracted this disease
through either sexual intercourse or injection drug abuse. HIV may
have made its first inroads in the United States among the gay
community but the fact is that overall, infection rates in the
straight community continue to climb, helped no doubt by the stupidity
of people who continue to view HIV as a "gay" disease. It might be
easier to become infected through certain sexual practices if not done
safely but then again those sexual practices are found among both
heterosexual and homosexual couples.
The fact is that millions of gay men and women live productive lives.
It is equally true that some do not. The same is true of
heterosexuals. What I find encouraging is the simple fact that
circumstances have changed dramatically since I was a youth in the
50's and 60's. While things are not perfect, the simple fact is that
decades of effort to educate the general populace as well as encourage
gay men and women to reveal themselves to their straight neighbors,
family and workmates have had a positive result. The vast majority of
people 55 or younger know gay men and women. They know them as
uncles, aunts, cousins, brothers and sisters. They went to school
with them or had them as teachers. They know them as neighbors and
people they work with. They served with them in the military. They
interact with them on a daily basis and they know they are not the
depraved creatures that religious extremists and other homophobes
claim them to be. As a result, as one goes through the generations,
the amount of hostility towards gay men and women falls off
dramatically. One sees this in the integration of gay men and women
in general society. The days of the gay ghettos are pretty much
over. Younger gay men and women are out and do not see the need to
hide in the gay ghettos that still exist. Straight and gay couples go
out together and socially interact. The US Census shows us that in
virtually every county of this country there are gay couples living
together in committed relationships.
Now this does not mean that the United States has become a utopia in
which all people look beyond what some people might do in bed together
but it does mean that the social climate has significantly altered and
the homophobes are terrified by this. Fear and ignorance still abound
and some sick individuals still raise their children to hate gay men
and women just as some sick individuals still raise their children to
hate people because of the color of their skin, their religion or
their ethnic origin. Sometimes religious intolerance motivates this
hatred and fear. Sometimes their homophobia is much more deep seated,
relating to desires that person has experienced or does experience.
Senator Craig being a good example.
So the response to the original poster's question is simple. What
population subgroup could be grimmer than gay men and women? The
answer is those who live lives of hatred, anger and ignorance, living
in fear and loathing of a subgroup of the human population which does
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