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Emerson Wainwright
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 Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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On Jul 13, 6:55 pm, LeRoy Blue <leroyb...@pillon.net> wrote:
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"What population sub-group could be grimmer than that which, by
excluding children as its first principle, has condemned its
individual members to suicide in one generation and of which,
furthermore, fully half of the number are infected with a deadly,
incurable, painful, drawn-out and contagious disease?"
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One more grim population would be the religious right, who consider
themselves correct in all social matters, and who enjoy restricting
the rights of people who disagree with them.
(And it isn't the case that half of the homosexual population is HIV
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Emerson Wainwright
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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On Jul 16, 1:46 pm, Masculist <MASCUL...@gmail.com> wrote:
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My view of all this is
political and I could give a rat's ass about Homo's and their
problems, which compared to other men, women and children are silly,
self indulgent and destructive to the rest of us both politically and
culturally.
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Your view is seriously distorted. And unimportant. |
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Emerson Wainwright
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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On Jul 17, 6:42 am, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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On Jul 16, 11:46 am, Masculist <MASCUL...@gmail.com> wrote:
Congrats on the "civil and respectful" discourse. I'd argue all the
points but I just don't have the energy. My view of all this is
political and I could give a rat's ass about Homo's and their
problems, which compared to other men, women and children are silly,
self indulgent and destructive to the rest of us both politically and
culturally.
Yeah, basically I agree. I don't have a problem with any
homosexuals personally, but politically they should just
shut up.
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There's that funny word "should" again.
Anyway: Not gonna happen.
Accept it and find some other group to hate. |
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Andrew Usher
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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On Jul 17, 1:52 pm, Emerson Wainwright <emersonwainwri...@yahoo.com>
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On Jul 17, 6:42 am, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jul 16, 11:46 am, Masculist <MASCUL...@gmail.com> wrote:
Congrats on the "civil and respectful" discourse. I'd argue all the
points but I just don't have the energy. My view of all this is
political and I could give a rat's ass about Homo's and their
problems, which compared to other men, women and children are silly,
self indulgent and destructive to the rest of us both politically and
culturally.
Yeah, basically I agree. I don't have a problem with any
homosexuals personally, but politically they should just
shut up.
There's that funny word "should" again.
Anyway: Not gonna happen.
Accept it and find some other group to hate.
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Troll.
Andrew Usher |
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Andrew Usher
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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On Jul 17, 1:50 pm, Emerson Wainwright <emersonwainwri...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
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On Jul 16, 1:46 pm, Masculist <MASCUL...@gmail.com> wrote:
My view of all this is
political and I could give a rat's ass about Homo's and their
problems, which compared to other men, women and children are silly,
self indulgent and destructive to the rest of us both politically and
culturally.
Your view is seriously distorted. And unimportant.
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And who are you, troll?
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RedDog
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:13 pm Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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On Jul 17, 11:11 pm, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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On Jul 17, 1:52 pm, Emerson Wainwright <emersonwainwri...@yahoo.com
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On Jul 17, 6:42 am, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jul 16, 11:46 am, Masculist <MASCUL...@gmail.com> wrote:
Congrats on the "civil and respectful" discourse. I'd argue all the
points but I just don't have the energy. My view of all this is
political and I could give a rat's ass about Homo's and their
problems, which compared to other men, women and children are silly,
self indulgent and destructive to the rest of us both politically and
culturally.
Yeah, basically I agree. I don't have a problem with any
homosexuals personally, but politically they should just
shut up.
There's that funny word "should" again.
Anyway: Not gonna happen.
Accept it and find some other group to hate.
Troll.
Andrew Usher
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Asshole.
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Emerson Wainwright
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:00 am Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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On Jul 17, 7:11 pm, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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On Jul 17, 1:52 pm, Emerson Wainwright <emersonwainwri...@yahoo.com
wrote:
On Jul 17, 6:42 am, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jul 16, 11:46 am, Masculist <MASCUL...@gmail.com> wrote:
Congrats on the "civil and respectful" discourse. I'd argue all the
points but I just don't have the energy. My view of all this is
political and I could give a rat's ass about Homo's and their
problems, which compared to other men, women and children are silly,
self indulgent and destructive to the rest of us both politically and
culturally.
Yeah, basically I agree. I don't have a problem with any
homosexuals personally, but politically they should just
shut up.
There's that funny word "should" again.
Anyway: Not gonna happen.
Accept it and find some other group to hate.
Troll.
Andrew Usher-
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Retard.
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Emerson Wainwright
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:01 am Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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On Jul 17, 7:12 pm, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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On Jul 17, 1:50 pm, Emerson Wainwright <emersonwainwri...@yahoo.com
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On Jul 16, 1:46 pm, Masculist <MASCUL...@gmail.com> wrote:
My view of all this is
political and I could give a rat's ass about Homo's and their
problems, which compared to other men, women and children are silly,
self indulgent and destructive to the rest of us both politically and
culturally.
Your view is seriously distorted. And unimportant.
And who are you, troll?
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I'm one of the many who are putting you in your place.
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Dionisio
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:35 am Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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Andrew Usher wrote:
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Yeah, basically I agree. I don't have a problem with any
homosexuals personally, but politically they should just
shut up.
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Ah. So your problem is with representative government. Hmm...
I hear Iran is nice and sunny this time of year...
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And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
He asked, "Who said 'a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet'?" The correct
answer to this is Romeo of Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet, NOT Shakespeare as most people
answer. The point is that there are a great number of 'characters' in the Bible. Often
their statements are taken as God's word. Bill (the preacher) said that many people
confused the words of apostles -- and of other people mentioned -- with the word of God or
Jesus.
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Dionisio
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:37 am Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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Andrew Usher wrote:
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Emerson Wainwright <emersonwainwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Accept it and find some other group to hate.
Troll.
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There ya go!
Embrace the hate!
Death to trolls!!!
<lol>
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And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
Eschew obfuscation
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LeRoy Blue
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:24 am Post subject: Re: What population sub-group could be grimmer than that cal |
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On 2008-07-17 14:42:12 -0400, juanjo <jonpetry@mindspring.com> said:
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As to the contention that fully half will die of disease, that is
simply not supported by the evidence. Some will, particularly older
ones who became infected with HIV prior to the discovery of the cause
of that disease. HIV and AIDS is not a disease which discriminates.
It has been around for quite some time although it did not break out
into the Western World until the 1970's. and was not recognized until
the 80's. When one looks at infection rates worldwide, it is sadly
true fact that millions of heterosexuals have contracted this disease
through either sexual intercourse or injection drug abuse. HIV may
have made its first inroads in the United States among the gay
community but the fact is that overall, infection rates in the
straight community continue to climb, helped no doubt by the stupidity
of people who continue to view HIV as a "gay" disease. It might be
easier to become infected through certain sexual practices if not done
safely but then again those sexual practices are found among both
heterosexual and homosexual couples.
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Now for the truth of the matter:
HIV Diagnoses Among MSM Ages 13-24 Increasing by 12% Annually, CDC Report Says

Kaiser Daily HIV/AIDS Report - 06.27.08
The number of new HIV diagnoses recorded between 2001 and 2006 among
men who have sex with men ages 13 to 24 increased by 12.4% annually,
according to a study published Thursday in CDC's Morbidity and
Mortality Weekly Report, the New York Times reports. Some experts said
the findings are an "ominous ... indicator" that the HIV/AIDS epidemic
continues to flourish among MSM, the Times reports. For the study, CDC
analyzed data from 33 states but did not include statistics from states
with large minority and MSM populations, including California, Illinois
and Georgia (Tuller, New York Times, 6/27). The study found that of the
214,379 HIV diagnoses recorded during the study period, 46% were among
MSM. Although the rate of new diagnoses increased for MSM, it declined
in all other transmission categories, including injection drug use and
high-risk heterosexual contact, Reuters reports. Among all MSM, the
estimated annual percentage change was 1.5%, according to the study
(Reuters, 6/26). Among MSM ages 25 to 44, the rate of new diagnoses
declined by 1%. In addition, among MSM ages 45 and older, the rate
increased by 3%, the study found. Among MSM ages 13 to 24, the annual
increase was 8% among Hispanics, 9% among whites and 15% among blacks.
According to the Washington Post, the increase among young MSM is about
10 times higher than the overall MSM community. Previous studies have
found that black MSM on average have fewer sexual partners, are less
likely to use drugs and are no more likely to have unprotected sex than
white MSM. The higher rate recorded among black MSM, therefore, does
not seem to stem from riskier behavior but rather the higher prevalence
of HIV and other sexually transmitted infections that can increase a
person's likelihood of contracting the virus (Brown, Washington Post,
6/27)."To reduce transmission of HIV among MSM of all
races/ethnicities, prevention strategies should be strengthened,
improved and implemented more broadly," the report said. The report
added that HIV testing is important because "after persons become aware
that they are HIV-positive, most reduce their high-risk sexual
behavior" (Reuters, 6/26). According to the report, some of the
increase could be because of higher rates of HIV testing among MSM.
However, it added that "available data suggest that these increases
cannot be explained by increases in testing alone" (New York Times,
6/27)
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Men have no right to put the well-being of the present generation
wholly out of the question. Perhaps the only moral trust with any
certainty in our hands is the care of our own time. -Edmund Burke (1729
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